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Gary Smalley has written around a million books on marriage; but what’s his own marriage like? And are there two sides to the story? Gary’s wife, Norma, rarely does interviews, but Martha and I used our considerable influence to woo her into the studio with her husband for a frank discussion on marriage and how theirs has weathered 48 years. This is a “legacy” interview you don’t want to miss!