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See what we did there? If you’ve heard of Jeff Bethke, you probably know he’s the author of “It’s Not What You Think.” His newest book is “Love That Lasts,” and Lisa called him to catch up on his current life (babies, sickness, ministry, Hawaii), and to talk about how a recovering “party boy” married a “perfect Christian girl.” Jeff also talks marriage expectations, what commitment looks like, and gives encouragement if you’re burned out on dating.