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John has spent the majority of his radio career in the second chair as co-host, Patrick is the youngest of four brothers, and Diane has a strong personality that’s made it difficult to let her husband lead in marriage. Following can be hard, especially when our culture (and even the church) praises leadership and getting ahead. Almost all of us have to follow someone. How can we learn to do it well? Our panel discusses the upside of not being in charge.