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Rick was a passive guy, especially when it came to his spiritual life. It wasn’t until he went to premarital counseling that he realized that passivity would be very harmful to his future marriage. He started studying what it means to be a man and discovered that stereotypically feminine traits like submission and compassion are actually key components of true manhood. Lisa sits down with Rick and his friend Andy for a snarky, Jesus-centered and enlightening discussion on how guys can be a true man — and how ladies can recognize one.