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Mark and Grace Driscoll’s marriage should be a bad statistic, but by the grace of God, it’s not. They’re still together and doing better than ever as they take life and love one day at a time. They’re also not afraid to share their journey in hopes of helping other couples avoid the mistakes they made, and their new book Real Marriage reflects much of their story. We talk about some of it here as Mark and Grace unpack themes like friendship, men in marriage, respect, the effects of abuse and other important lessons. Here’s a picture of us during the interview. I’ll have more once I bully Dave into downloading them off his camera.